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		<title>By: The Geospatial Technology Competency Model- Finally&#8230; a Yardstick! &#124; GIS Jo</title>
		<link>http://michalisavraam.org/2009/11/the-essential-skills-to-succeed-in-a-gis-career/comment-page-1/#comment-9120</link>
		<dc:creator>The Geospatial Technology Competency Model- Finally&#8230; a Yardstick! &#124; GIS Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 18:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] needed to be a successful GIS professional. It was written by Michalis Avraam, entitled The Essential skills needed to succeed in a GIS Career. This was the post that inspired me to take a serious look at my current skillset and organise my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The d.i.y. Self-training Project &#171; GIS Jo</title>
		<link>http://michalisavraam.org/2009/11/the-essential-skills-to-succeed-in-a-gis-career/comment-page-1/#comment-4839</link>
		<dc:creator>The d.i.y. Self-training Project &#171; GIS Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quest.  The first thing on the agenda however, was to find out exactly what was needed to succeed in a GIS career- more on that in a later post. This set the framework for what I&#8217;d focus my energies on at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] quest.  The first thing on the agenda however, was to find out exactly what was needed to succeed in a GIS career- more on that in a later post. This set the framework for what I&#8217;d focus my energies on at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Fashagba</title>
		<link>http://michalisavraam.org/2009/11/the-essential-skills-to-succeed-in-a-gis-career/comment-page-1/#comment-2428</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Fashagba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Great article!
the article clearly spells out the required skill sets for anyone who wants to be a well rounded GIS Professional.
I am pretty new to GIS Programming. Please advise on key programming language and how to access training.
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Great article!<br />
the article clearly spells out the required skill sets for anyone who wants to be a well rounded GIS Professional.<br />
I am pretty new to GIS Programming. Please advise on key programming language and how to access training.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am returning to college this fall to study GIS. This has been the most helpful site I have come across to get a sense of what I need to study to actually get a job and what programs I may be working with. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am returning to college this fall to study GIS. This has been the most helpful site I have come across to get a sense of what I need to study to actually get a job and what programs I may be working with. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: GIS Tech</title>
		<link>http://michalisavraam.org/2009/11/the-essential-skills-to-succeed-in-a-gis-career/comment-page-1/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>GIS Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Indeed, GPS data pro­cess­ing and remote sens­ing are required. I assumed that data entry and pro­cess­ing, as well as GIS Analysis would encom­pass them&lt;/i&gt;

In regards to remote sensing...
You would be hard pressed to find many universities who teach the  remote sensing. Not to mention, 0 community colleges. Though photogrammetry is a doable thing to pick up, the remote sensing skills that I find people hiring for (i.e. usually some sort of classification procedure using ERDAS, Definiens, or ENVI) are not easy to learn in many colleges. The software is simply too expensive for general student labs to afford. Definiens licenses can run 7500-10,000....ENVI isn&#039;t much better (4,000-6,000). Even with educational discounts (I know one person who got a single use license for Definiens for 2,000) that&#039;s pretty expensive stuff there. 

Though I believe ESRI has done an admirable job integrating their products into community colleges and even the K-12 system. They&#039;ve put in the legwork to make their product user-friendly (not something I can say for all software packages) and relatively affordable. 

Ultimately, unless you had the good fortune to attend a university with a lot of money and prestige, you are not going to learn RS just anywhere.

Another thing I wanted to mention....as a young GIS/RS tech, I&#039;m troubled by the attitudes of some of the employers I meet today. I&#039;ve been interviewed at firms who are new to GIS (primarily in the solar and wind industry). Some of these firms had a laundry list as long as yours, and were requesting that work be cranked out for a pretty low fee (if there was a fee). There were also an abnormally large amount of requests for me to start work as an &#039;trial intern&#039; and/or design them a highly functional WebGIS in the matter of weeks. 

I&#039;d blame this attitude on the economy, but I have other evidence to that begs note. Recently, I  have lost count of how many grad school acquaintances and non-profits have requested me to perform some GIS/RS task at the drop of a hat (for free). Though I&#039;m happy to help these friends, it is a little disconcerting that they believe GIS works &#039;something like google maps&#039; and you can just type addresses in and get whatever information that you want with a twinkle of your eye. The time it takes to accurately geocode their site data, and find/create the shapefiles files that provide the information they want....well, they think it should be done in the matter of minutes (not hours/days).  

It seems that news of the usefulness and many-applications of GIS has reached these industries...however, they don&#039;t seem to have a clue how to best utilize this technology. They also have a rather flippant attitude about salary and how long (and costly) it is to develop these particular skill sets. I feel kindof tired being paid 1/2 of what your average IT tech is making (though I have a master&#039;s and a very similar skill set). 

Much like our problem with farmers today (which is an aging, highly-litigious, and impoverished profession, with the average farmer being over 55 and approaching 60, and the proportion of principal farm operators younger than 35 dropping from 15.9 percent in 1982 to 5.8 percent in 2002) if we don&#039;t make the profession worthwhile to young employees, they aren&#039;t going to study it in college, and they are not going to enter the field. Something needs to be done to somehow impress upon our new markets that GIS is an expansive technology, and it&#039;s students are not mere &quot;google maps junkies&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Indeed, GPS data pro­cess­ing and remote sens­ing are required. I assumed that data entry and pro­cess­ing, as well as GIS Analysis would encom­pass them</i></p>
<p>In regards to remote sensing&#8230;<br />
You would be hard pressed to find many universities who teach the  remote sensing. Not to mention, 0 community colleges. Though photogrammetry is a doable thing to pick up, the remote sensing skills that I find people hiring for (i.e. usually some sort of classification procedure using ERDAS, Definiens, or ENVI) are not easy to learn in many colleges. The software is simply too expensive for general student labs to afford. Definiens licenses can run 7500-10,000&#8230;.ENVI isn&#8217;t much better (4,000-6,000). Even with educational discounts (I know one person who got a single use license for Definiens for 2,000) that&#8217;s pretty expensive stuff there. </p>
<p>Though I believe ESRI has done an admirable job integrating their products into community colleges and even the K-12 system. They&#8217;ve put in the legwork to make their product user-friendly (not something I can say for all software packages) and relatively affordable. </p>
<p>Ultimately, unless you had the good fortune to attend a university with a lot of money and prestige, you are not going to learn RS just anywhere.</p>
<p>Another thing I wanted to mention&#8230;.as a young GIS/RS tech, I&#8217;m troubled by the attitudes of some of the employers I meet today. I&#8217;ve been interviewed at firms who are new to GIS (primarily in the solar and wind industry). Some of these firms had a laundry list as long as yours, and were requesting that work be cranked out for a pretty low fee (if there was a fee). There were also an abnormally large amount of requests for me to start work as an &#8216;trial intern&#8217; and/or design them a highly functional WebGIS in the matter of weeks. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d blame this attitude on the economy, but I have other evidence to that begs note. Recently, I  have lost count of how many grad school acquaintances and non-profits have requested me to perform some GIS/RS task at the drop of a hat (for free). Though I&#8217;m happy to help these friends, it is a little disconcerting that they believe GIS works &#8216;something like google maps&#8217; and you can just type addresses in and get whatever information that you want with a twinkle of your eye. The time it takes to accurately geocode their site data, and find/create the shapefiles files that provide the information they want&#8230;.well, they think it should be done in the matter of minutes (not hours/days).  </p>
<p>It seems that news of the usefulness and many-applications of GIS has reached these industries&#8230;however, they don&#8217;t seem to have a clue how to best utilize this technology. They also have a rather flippant attitude about salary and how long (and costly) it is to develop these particular skill sets. I feel kindof tired being paid 1/2 of what your average IT tech is making (though I have a master&#8217;s and a very similar skill set). </p>
<p>Much like our problem with farmers today (which is an aging, highly-litigious, and impoverished profession, with the average farmer being over 55 and approaching 60, and the proportion of principal farm operators younger than 35 dropping from 15.9 percent in 1982 to 5.8 percent in 2002) if we don&#8217;t make the profession worthwhile to young employees, they aren&#8217;t going to study it in college, and they are not going to enter the field. Something needs to be done to somehow impress upon our new markets that GIS is an expansive technology, and it&#8217;s students are not mere &#8220;google maps junkies&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Great article, One quick Question though.

What is the best programming language to learn, for someone (like me) who doesnt know how to program and is one thing missing for my CV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Great article, One quick Question though.</p>
<p>What is the best programming language to learn, for someone (like me) who doesnt know how to program and is one thing missing for my CV?</p>
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		<title>By: Essential GIS Skillset at GeoChris</title>
		<link>http://michalisavraam.org/2009/11/the-essential-skills-to-succeed-in-a-gis-career/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Essential GIS Skillset at GeoChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Go read: The essential skills to succeed in a GIS career [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George Neag</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Neag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, excellent point of view !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, excellent point of view !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Skiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Skiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an effective assessment on what we need to know and practice to succeed.  Nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an effective assessment on what we need to know and practice to succeed.  Nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Bunch</title>
		<link>http://michalisavraam.org/2009/11/the-essential-skills-to-succeed-in-a-gis-career/comment-page-1/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and comments!!</description>
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